Wishful Thinking

Sound clean - bonus tracks to boot!! Can't ask for much more than that!!!!!

Excellent.

i've owned this cd for a while..being german-american, this cd's very 'german', if you know what i mean....very danceable. very 80's/new wave..true.. it is basically like their original cd, but definitely a must have if you like propaganda..it's basically the same their original cd, mixed differently, or maybe even better..i like this cd a lot, and it's usually with me when i travel..i recommend it...

This is a re-mix of the famous "Secret Wish" album. Typical for the mid-80s and well ahead of its time. If you have "Secret Wish", don't expect any big surprises; however, it is mixed in the sense of usual dance singles, so you will get a lot of the original rhythm pure. Having almost all CDs, vinyls and singles by Propaganda, I often prefer this album over the original because it's more dance-oriented and gives me new energy when I need it.

Propaganda was perhaps the best of the 80's. I know I'm still listening to them and enjoying them as much now as I was then. This collection of remixes might actually be more fun than A Secret Wish. But regardless, it should be part of your collection.This is ZTT at their best.

I bought the CD waiting for a good mixes of the last songs, but I found a repetitive CD without anything that renew the good songs from 'The Secret Wish'. Simply, I'm waiting much more from this CD. It's not bad, but if you have 'The Secret Wish', youd don't need this one.

Originally bought this album in 1985, way ahead of it's time - played it over & over until I wore it out! For me very captivating & groundbreaking music - different to anything else I'd ever heard before!

simply the best

nice expanded edition

all good a++++

Bought this as i love 'secret wish' and loved it, only gripe is Duel is duel not Jewel but still a good mix.. amazed to read in booklet that original master of Dr mabuse is missing !! worth the buy and please a live CD !!! well done all on a new CD to listen to.

Neben perfekt durchkomponierten und auf Hochglanz produzierten Pop-Symphonien gab es doch von Anfang an bei ZTT immer auch das Zerhackstückte. Frühe Cut-Ups sozusagen.Hört Euch die B-Seite der "Dr. Mabuse"-Single an "Der Spieler: The Second Side: 'B To-Morrow'" bzw "(An International Incident)" arrangiert von Propaganda and Trevor Horn (5:43) von 1984. Das ist eine etwas atonale Klang-Collage aus Soundschnipseln, Samples und mit Hall und ähnlichen Effekten verfremdeter Teile aus "Dr. Mabuse" und "Femme Fatale". (Auch zu finden auf der Doppel CD "The Art of the 12", Volume Two" letzter Track auf der ersten Disc)Und in der Maxi-Version von 1984 "Das Testament Des Mabuse: The Third Side" (10:14) beginnt nach 4:54 Min. plötzlich ein 2:10 Min. langer Gewehrmaschinen-artiger Break, der auch sehr verstörend ist; aber doch cool! Da ist "Warum schmerzt es, wenn mein Herz den Schlag verpasst" rückwärts zu hören. Wow! Böses Backward-Masking!-DTrevor Horn liebte immer auch die Brüche in tollen Popsongs, die die Werke nicht zu gefällig erscheinen ließen. In vielen Trevor Horn produzierten Songs wird die Harmonie nach einer Weile gestört und findet dann wieder zum Thema zurück. Das war doch das faszinierende an den vielfältigen Maxi-Re-Mix-Versionen! Z.B. der Mittelteil von Art of Noise' "Moments in Love", da wird die harmonische Gebetsmühle von einem seltsam anmutenden "Now. Now." Und "Aah. Aah." gestört, um dann nach Harfenklängen wieder den Rhythmus und die Melodie aufzunehmen.Und Andrew Poppy hat das Zerfasern und neu Zusammenstückeln einer Komposition doch auf ZTT voll auf die Spitze getrieben.Wenn man genau hinhört, kann man bemerken, dass die Brüche nicht beliebig gesetzt sind. So erreicht auf "Wishful Thinking" "Abuse" gerade das Ende eines Abschnitts, als genau passend "Machined" einsetzt und die Geschichte übernimmt und weiter erzählt.Ich finde aber die 4:17 Min.-Version von "Abuse" besser. SOwas Ohr-gastisches... Da hab ich mich als 1/2wüchsiger schon drüber gefreut!-DUnd auf dem Cover steht "Disturbdances", also gestörte, beunruhigende, durcheinandergebrachte, belästigende, verstörende Tänze...Also ICH finds GENIAL! Und meine Freude daran nutzt sich bisher nicht ab."Das geht natürlich nicht so glatt ins Ohr wie Peter Alexander!", um es mal mit Loriot zu sagen!-)

Il disco, stando anche ai campioni presenti su Amazon, è gradevole e rivela diversi remix dei brani di "A Secret Wish" dei Propaganda, quindi dal punto di vista artistico e sonoro nulla da eccepire.Peccato che la custodia, come evidenziato (per quanto possibile) in foto, è arrivata rotta sia sul fronte che dietro... e non so se lo era già all'origine o è accaduto durante il trasporto, perché la confezione è giunta intatta senza alcun segno di urto o manomissione. Preciso che il CD era sigillato.Se la custodia fosse arrivata integra avrei dato senza dubbio 5 stelle !!!

Como he mencionado anteriormente, los regalos o las compras para amigos, no los suelo comentar, y no tengo pensado hacerlo, pero si la persona en cuestión no ha dicho nada, es que todo va bien.

Als der Sampler in den 80gern auf Vinyl kam, lief die Scheibe bei mir rauf-und-runter. Auch kaufte ich mir die MC davon, welche mein Walk-Man für eine seeeehr lange Zeit nicht mehr verließ...Vieles aus den 80gern mag ich einfach nicht mehr hören, doch diesen Sampler (und Propaganda an sich) genieße ich nach wie vor!!!Ja, die Abmischung ist 1-A-Sahne!! Sehr geniale Übergange!! Und endlich habe ich p:Machinery (The Beta Wraparound) als vollständige Version in meiner Sammlung. Ein äußerst gelungener Mix!! WOW!!!!!Auch die Gestaltung der CD-Hülle ist super gut!!Tracks 9, 11, 12, 13, 14 sind previously unreleased!!!!

There was never enough output from 'Propaganda' to satisfy their true fans (Amongst which I am proud to include myself!) but this CD goes some way to redressing the balance with interesting reworkings of some of the band's greatest songs.If you only ever buy one album by 'Propaganda' then buy 'A secret wish'. But if you'd like to hear an alternative take on it, then "Outside World" is probably better than this. Although a completist like me would buy this as well.Word is that Propaganda were not impressed by "Wishful Thinking" and saw it merely as an attempt by ZTT to cash in on the name with no real involvement from the band. I agree with them that "Outside World" knocks it into a cocked hat, but it's still an interesting recording to own, if only because one can never have too much Propaganda!Favourite Propaganda tracks? 'Duel' and 'P-Machinery' (both taken from 'A Secret Wish')There is no better track than 'P-Machinery' (12" Beta wrap-around mix) for playing loud when driving through a neon-lit cityscape late at night in an open top car. Try it. You'll see what I mean!'Power...Force...Motion...drive!'

This was the first Propaganda album I ever bought. I had loved the songs of the band already eventually getting this album as my first Propaganda experience. I've always been introduced in the 'remix' concept and I think the roots of it lie within this album. 8 tracks that basically disconnect the original songs and puts them back together again as a bit of a mish mash of music. First off - there are hardly any vocals on this album, so the focus is on the music, the production and with slightly twiddling of mixers, different emphasise on elements separate from the original versions. You have 80's remix dub elements colliding with different focuses on elements from the original songs. Because I wasn't familiar with the original album 'A Secret Wish' this was all I had to work on. Huge industrial arrangements with little blasts of vocals and unexpected surprises.Abuse (1) is a great opening track (remix of Dr. Mabuse) - full of exciting and drama, that we're getting into an album that will be very different from you expect.This collides into Machined (remix of P:Machinery) which makes the bass line the drive of the thing as it forces itself along.Laughed (remix of Sorry For Laughing) is the dub idea, deconstructing the song as if it sounds like it is being sifted through a meat mincer, with the drums being a dominant part of the mix.Loving (remix of The Murder Of Love) is a nice little coda that ends the first side of the album (if this was a record) which makes way for...the crown of the collection is 'Jewelled' which I would say is the best version of the Duel/Jewel idea. It is fast, exciting and is everything it should be. A great song.Loved (remix of The Murder Of Love) has a lovely piano opening before breaking into another dub style mix of stripping structure apart turning the song into an elaborate piece of music.Abuse (2) (remix of Dr. Mabuse) - focuses on the last bit of the original song. And is a really nice piece of music showing how great the instrumentation on this song is.Thought - this is an instrumental version of a song never released called 'Discipline' and is worth a listen. It fits in well with the rest of the album mood quite well.And that's it. Worth a listen for a change. And the bonus tracks here are good.'Strength To Dream' - this version could have fitted on this album fine. It fits the same ethos.'P-Machinary (The Beta Wraparound) - a really good full 12" version of the song (too many vocals to fit Wishful Thinking concept but nice to have it anyway)'The Murder Of Love - Murderous Instrumental' is not just a basic instrumental. It messes with the arrangement a little.'Dr. Mabuse' - An alternative out take to the original with some subtle differences. Once again not fitting the Wishful Thinking ideas - but that's ok. I mean it is a great song!'Frozen Faces - A Sense Of Rhythm' - this is an interesting one. It sounds like a mix where a lot of improvising and messing about happened over a continuous loop. This could have been on the Wishful Thinking album.'P-Machinary - The Voiceless Beta Wraparound Edit' - stripped of vocals and the arrangement is highlighted.So this really is a perfect companion to A Secret Wish - but in my opinion stands on it's own as well. Glad it had the nice re-issue. Great new packaging as well.

Perfecta reproducción,LP original mas versiones inéditas me encanta.

bel disco con tracce inedite dei brani più famosi come "dr Mabuse"e"P.Machinery"e versioni estese di altri pezzi.per collezionisti.Amazon impeccabile come sempre

todo correcto

I was so pleased to see that this had finally been released on CD! This has been one of my prize possessions on vinyl since its original release and often encouraged me to create a vinyl listening room (which never lasts) mainly due to Jewelled which so deftly combines Jewel and Duel (try saying that quickly!). Wishful Thinking is a remixalbum as discussed by Ian Peel in the accompanying booklet. It stands up in its own right as separate entity to A Secret Wish, the album from which the tracks are culled. The extra tracks are great, especially as five are previously unreleased. In the same way as the original vinyl release served as the perfect accompaniment to the original release of A Secret Wish, this serves as the perfect accompaniment to the two disc deluxe edition of A Secret Wish released recently. All you need to (almost) completely sate your appetite for Propaganda is Outside World.